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U.S. Needs China More Than China Needs the U.S.
U.S. Needs China More Than China Needs the U.S.
To avoid Trump's disastrous trade war, three things need to be addressed.
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Stephen Roach
More Stories By Stephen Roach

April 6, 2018, 4:00 PM GMT+7

U.S. Needs China More Than China Needs the U.S.

A war the U.S. can't win.
 Photographer: AFP/Getty Images

Not one to be outdone by any adversary, Donald Trump has upped the ante in a rapidly escalating trade war with China, threatening an additional $100 billion of tariffs on top of the initial round of $50 billion. In doing so, the Trump administration is failing to appreciate a crucial reality: The United States needs China more than China needs the U.S.


Yes, China is still an export-led economy, and the American consumer is its largest customer. But China’s export share of its gross domestic product has fallen from 37 percent in 2007 to slightly less than 20 percent today, an important outgrowth of a decade-long rebalancing. By drawing increased support from domestic demand, China is better able to withstand the pressure of tariffs and other actions that are aimed at its exporters.


Not so with the United States. The U.S. depends heavily on China for providing the low-cost goods that enable income-constrained American consumers to make ends meet. The U.S. also depends on China to support its own exports; next to Mexico and Canada, China is America’s third largest and by far its most rapidly growing major export market.


And, of course, the U.S. depends on China to provide funding for its budget deficits. It is the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury securities — some $1.3 trillion in direct ownership and at least another $250 billion of quasi-government paper. A lack of Chinese buying could turn the next Treasury auction into a rout.


America depends on China because of a fundamental weakness in the structure of the U.S. economy — a profound and worrisome lack of domestic saving. In the fourth quarter of 2017, the net domestic saving rate (depreciation-adjusted saving of households, businesses and the government sector, combined) was just 1.3 percent of national income.
Lacking in savings at home, and wanting to consume and grow, the U.S. must import surplus foreign saving from abroad – and run massive balance-of-payments and trade deficits to import this capital. In 2017, the United States had merchandise trade deficits with 102 nations!
President Donald Trump continues to single out China as the villain in the great American tragedy, when in fact he should take a careful look in the mirror.
First of all, he continues to insist that the U.S.-China trade deficit is $500 billion, fully one-third larger than the actual figure of $375 billion published by the Commerce Department.
Second, data from the OECD and the World Trade Organization suggests at least 40 percent of this bilateral imbalance reflects supply-chain effects of components and parts that are produced outside of China but assembled inside China. That means, based on the value added of what is  actually produced in China — the essence of the alleged China threat — that the 47 percent share of the U.S. deficit ascribed to China would be reduced to around 28 percent.
Yes, this is still a big number. But it is far below the claims of President Trump and the official figures of the Commerce Department. While the international specialization of comparative advantage explains this portion, that argument doesn’t carry much weight in the political arena.  
Third, Trump’s budget deficits will make America’s trade problems worse. A low-saving U.S. economy can’t square the circle without trade deficits. With tax cuts of $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years and another $300 billion in spending increases added in by a reckless Congress in order to avert a government shutdown late last year, the net domestic saving rate is headed toward zero – or even lower – with trade deficits likely to widen sharply in response.  
And that leads to the uncomfortable truth of China bashing: protectionism in the face of widening trade deficits. Courtesy of Trump tariffs, China’s deficit will now be distributed to the other 101 nations that make up America’s multilateral merchandise trade deficit. Relative to China, these are higher-cost producers, meaning the likely response to this retaliation will have the effect of taxing the very families Trump insists he is protecting.
In my 2014 book, I present estimates of the benefits of low-cost Chinese production, comparing its manufacturing compensation with that of the other top-10 sources of U.S. imports. Chinese labor input was just $2.30 an hour while the average for foreign suppliers ranked two through 10 was about $26 per hour. Trump’s tariffs would, in effect, shift U.S. imports toward these higher-cost producers — with huge potential consequences on the purchasing power of beleaguered American consumers. 
Three things need to be addressed to avoid this nightmare:
One, communication: The exchange of views between the U.S. and China is far too episodic — annual gatherings of the Strategic and Economic Dialogue, the Joint Commission on Commerce and Trade, as well as periodic leader-to-leader summits. A permanent secretariat, staffed by high-level experts from both sides, would be far preferable in tackling the complexity of a challenging relationship.
Two, market access: Both nations should put a high priority on breaking the 10-year logjam in negotiations of a bilateral investment treaty. For U.S. multinationals, access to China’s rapidly expanding domestic markets is a major growth opportunity. The same is the case for China’s “going out” global investment campaign.

Three, intellectual property: The thorny issue of technology transfer — the essence of the battle over intellectual property rights — needs to be resolved. In doing so, an important distinction must be made between contractual sharing of operating systems by partners in commercially negotiated joint ventures and outright theft, coercion and cyberhacking. In today’s knowledge-based world, there can be no tolerance of these latter infractions.
In the 1930s, protectionist tariffs and a global trade war exacerbated the Great Depression and destabilized the international order. Sadly, one of the most painful lessons of modern history is now at risk of being ignored.
(Stephen Roach, a faculty member at Yale University and former chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia, is the author of “Unbalanced: The Codependency of America and China.”)


https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-04-06/trump-s-tariffs-overlook-how-much-u-s-needs-china



kayanya trump mulai melempen, semalam ngancam kenakan tarif senilai 100 milyar dollar, tapi ngak kasih tahu daftar spesifiknya apa aja yg kena, kaya outburst doangemoticon-Thinking
senjata makan tuan buat amerika paok kalau mau sok hebat lawan china

Kebijakan Proteksionisme Trump Rugikan Amerika Serikat
https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/5ab6...merika-serikat
Kebijakan Donald Trump Dinilai akan Bawa AS Krisis Ekonomi
https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/5ac5...krisis-ekonomi
IMF Menilai Kebijakan Tarif Impor Bisa Hancurkan Ekonomi Amerika Serikat
https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/5aa2...merika-serikat
sebenernya yang susah itu bukan orang cina atau amerika akibat pertarungan ekonomi ini, tapi orang kelas menengah kebawah di Amerika. Elu2 yang pernah di sekolah di negara developed countries macam Amerika/ Canada/ Australia,dsb dan berasal dari negara developing countries (negara berkembang) tahulah, gimana hidup di Amrik. Kalo elu gak kaya banget, ya paling nyari produk2nya nunggu black sunday, christmas atau ke china town, nyari2 produk murah2 dari cinak. Bt
]kalau perang dagang amerika vs china
yg menang itu china

China has become the world's biggest trading nation in goods, ending the post-war dominance of the US, according to official figures.
China overtakes US in world trade
https://www.theguardian.com/business...trading-nation

America has finally lost its crown to China as the world’s biggest goods trading nation.
China overtakes US to become world’s biggest goods trading nation
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...ng-nation.html
China overtakes US as world’s largest goods trader
https://www.ft.com/content/7c2dbd70-...1-00144feabdc0

amerika belum mampu kuasai pasar dunia
China Yang Kuasai Pasar Perdagangan Dunia
sampai-sampai ada pernyataan keren
" Tuhan menciptakan langit dan bumi. Selebihnya adalah buatan China "
"God made heaven and earth, and the rest was made in China "
made in china bukan made in america
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kalau US needs China than China needs US
kenapa kemarin Li Keqiang datang untuk mengajak berunding (yang akhirnya ditolak Trump), bukan malah US yang datang ke Beijing untuk berunding.

dari datangnya Li Keqiang itu saja terlihat siapa yang lebih membutuhkan.
Kita bicara realita...harapan guwa jangan sampai akibat perang dagang ini, mahasiswa asal negara developing countries macam Indonesia gak bisa saving di Amrik , karena harga2 mahal. Semoga ini cuma bullshit trump paok aja. Semoga ini jadi karma Trump yang anti banget sama Islam. Amiiin ya robb! Ayo china hajar nih bule paok! Kali ini ane dukung kampanye Kokok Drunkard!
memang sulit membendung china,
hampir semua barang di dunia ini buatan china emoticon-Big Grin
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mungkin karena Li lebih waras daripada trump
trump mengerti apa yang dia lakukan,

amerika punya pasar, cina memerlukan itu
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U.S. Needs China More Than China Needs the U.S.
emoticon-Big Grin
kalo benar2 terjadi perang dagang, maka ujung2nya trump berhadapan dgn
1. kaum tipiser AS yg makin susah karena inflasi,
2. pengusaha AS yg berinvestasi di china dgn orientasi ekspor ke AS
3. Sekutu AS yg punya investasi di china
4. petani AS yg produknya sebagian besar ekspor ke china
dari situ terlihat, tidak semudah yg dibayangkan trump utk memenangkan perang ini, yg ada malah nanti partai republik kalah di pemilu november mendatang emoticon-Big Grin
pasti bakalan ada deal2 dibalik meja
sebenernya yg dibutuhkan bukan sekedar tarif tp izin usaha yg resiprokal buat perusahaan amerika-cina
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Sst diem entar warga mainland ngamuk