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Poll: Kira-kira menang mana kalo beneran terjadi Su-35 vs F-22 bertemu?

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Menang F-22A 24.53% (39 votes)
Menang Su-35 Stroong 55.97% (89 votes)
Sama-sama Eject 19.50% (31 votes)
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[SUKRO STROOONG] Su-35 bisa mengalahkan F-22 ??
Su-35S overtakes F-22 in terms of ‘intellect’
October 7, 2013 Sergey Ptichkin, Rossiyskaya Gazeta

[SUKRO STROOONG] Su-35 bisa mengalahkan F-22 ??

Practically the entire fifth generation fighter ideology has come to fruition in the shape of the Su-35S. This gives Russia the potential to set about creating a sixth generation combat aircraft ahead of all the other nations.

The advanced front line aviation complex PAK FA (the T-50) is completing its compulsory test phases successfully. The production fifth generation fighter is expected to enter service with the military from 2017. Meanwhile however front line units are already being equipped with an almost exact counterpart to this aircraft - the Su-35S multi-role fighter.

The point is that along with creating the virtual fifth generation fighter concept - from the very beginning it has been designed solely in digital form - the ready-made components of the future fighter were implemented and developed on the Su-35S platform. As a result the 4++ generation Su-35S was practically on a par with a fifth generation fighter across all its characteristics except the so-called stealth technology, right up to the moment it entered series production.

Moreover in terms of certain characteristics the Su-35S has already overtaken the only fifth generation fighter to enter service to date the American F-22 Raptor. Thus, the ‘Irbis’ radar control system fitted to the Su-35S is able to detect an airborne target at a record distance of up to 400 km and of tracking up to 30 targets and engaging 8 simultaneously. The radar system on the F-22 is weaker: the maximum detection range is only 300 km. Apart from that the ‘Irbis’ provides the potential to actively detect and track up to four ground targets simultaneously.

In addition the Su-35S is fitted with a navigation system capable of pinpointing the aircraft’s location and its movement parameters autonomously without resorting to satellite navigation or communication with ground stations. That is to say if the GPS or GLONASS were switched off the aircraft would not be ‘blinded’.

The Russian Air Force is due to receive 48 Su-35S aircraft before the end of 2015. In practical terms that’s 50 fifth generation aircraft in as much as the Su35S is almost identical to the PAK FA in terms of the on board electronics suite, control systems and armament. Therefore it will not prove difficult for pilots to convert to the classic fifth generation fighter with its obligatory stealth technology: any pilot who has assimilated the Su-35S can easily convert to the T-50. This means that the conversion to fifth generation fighters does not start in 2017 - it is already happening now in the Russian Air Force.

The ideology of the aircraft that will dominate the skies in the second half of the 21st Century is being determined today. Whether these will be flying robots or classic manned fighters with even more up to date electronics and new armament is not really important. The main point is that the Russian aircraft industry has a head start in developing a sixth generation fighter. The quicker the Su-35S enters service with front line units and the greater their numbers, the more successful work to create a new generation of fighter aircraft will be.

http://indrus.in/economics/2013/10/0...ect_29965.html

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[SUKRO STROOONG] Su-35 bisa mengalahkan F-22 ??

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kira2 menurut ente menang mana gan kalo Su-35 vs F-22 tanding beneran... emoticon-Big Grin emoticon-Big Grin emoticon-Big Grin
gak sabar lihat perang sales lagi kali ini Su-35 vs F-22emoticon-Kiss

buset nype ada pollingnyaemoticon-Matabelo

ane Vote Su-35 karena F-22 ga bakal dikasih mama rika ke NKRIemoticon-Kiss
Quote:Original Posted By pecotot
Su-35S overtakes F-22 in terms of ‘intellect’
October 7, 2013 Sergey Ptichkin, Rossiyskaya Gazeta

[SUKRO STROOONG] Su-35 bisa mengalahkan F-22 ??

Practically the entire fifth generation fighter ideology has come to fruition in the shape of the Su-35S. This gives Russia the potential to set about creating a sixth generation combat aircraft ahead of all the other nations.

The advanced front line aviation complex PAK FA (the T-50) is completing its compulsory test phases successfully. The production fifth generation fighter is expected to enter service with the military from 2017. Meanwhile however front line units are already being equipped with an almost exact counterpart to this aircraft - the Su-35S multi-role fighter.

The point is that along with creating the virtual fifth generation fighter concept - from the very beginning it has been designed solely in digital form - the ready-made components of the future fighter were implemented and developed on the Su-35S platform. As a result the 4++ generation Su-35S was practically on a par with a fifth generation fighter across all its characteristics except the so-called stealth technology, right up to the moment it entered series production.

Moreover in terms of certain characteristics the Su-35S has already overtaken the only fifth generation fighter to enter service to date the American F-22 Raptor. Thus, the ‘Irbis’ radar control system fitted to the Su-35S is able to detect an airborne target at a record distance of up to 400 km and of tracking up to 30 targets and engaging 8 simultaneously. The radar system on the F-22 is weaker: the maximum detection range is only 300 km. Apart from that the ‘Irbis’ provides the potential to actively detect and track up to four ground targets simultaneously.

In addition the Su-35S is fitted with a navigation system capable of pinpointing the aircraft’s location and its movement parameters autonomously without resorting to satellite navigation or communication with ground stations. That is to say if the GPS or GLONASS were switched off the aircraft would not be ‘blinded’.

The Russian Air Force is due to receive 48 Su-35S aircraft before the end of 2015. In practical terms that’s 50 fifth generation aircraft in as much as the Su35S is almost identical to the PAK FA in terms of the on board electronics suite, control systems and armament. Therefore it will not prove difficult for pilots to convert to the classic fifth generation fighter with its obligatory stealth technology: any pilot who has assimilated the Su-35S can easily convert to the T-50. This means that the conversion to fifth generation fighters does not start in 2017 - it is already happening now in the Russian Air Force.

The ideology of the aircraft that will dominate the skies in the second half of the 21st Century is being determined today. Whether these will be flying robots or classic manned fighters with even more up to date electronics and new armament is not really important. The main point is that the Russian aircraft industry has a head start in developing a sixth generation fighter. The quicker the Su-35S enters service with front line units and the greater their numbers, the more successful work to create a new generation of fighter aircraft will be.

http://indrus.in/economics/2013/10/0...ect_29965.html

Spoiler for Su-35BM:


Spoiler for comparison:


[SUKRO STROOONG] Su-35 bisa mengalahkan F-22 ??

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kira2 menurut ente menang mana gan kalo Su-35 vs F-22 tanding beneran... emoticon-Big Grin emoticon-Big Grin emoticon-Big Grin


Su-35 mbah
kalau data di atas benar,..gw pegang SU-35 BM
Quote:Original Posted By bluerider6089
kalau data di atas benar,..gw pegang SU-35 BM


data diatas itu sales marketing tools mas emoticon-Malu (S)

Tapi, Su 35 BM itu memang pesawat yang bagus kok ................. emoticon-Ngacir
jenis trit yg melanggar RoE kan. emoticon-Big Grin
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pegang F 22.. there is something about stealth aircraft yg bisa digunakan untuk pendadakan...
Quote:Original Posted By cherrybombers
jenis trit yg melanggar RoE kan. emoticon-Big Grin
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pegang F 22.. there is something about stealth aircraft yg bisa digunakan untuk pendadakan...


ai mau bilang nyerempet RoE ....keduluan aki cherry emoticon-Frown
ai pegang SU35s deh..emoticon-Smilie

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dOpOST
manuver sukro itu yang buat ozy mikir dan datengin F 35. jadi ane pegang Su 35 deh
kalaupun beneran (meragukan, kecuali lomba tahan lama2an pake masker oksigen di masing2 pesawat)
kemampuan russia memproduksi masal SU-35 sangat2 dipertanyakan di kalangan aviation.
Su-35 seteroooong emoticon-Big Grin

abis ngimpi lontong, sekarang ngimpi sukro...
inilah "Negeri Khayalan"... negeri pemimpi...
emoticon-Ngakak

bai de wei, Ane pilih SU-35BM aja dah kalo perbandingan diatas kertas.
maap nubie Gan...
Quote:Original Posted By madokafc


data diatas itu sales marketing tools mas emoticon-Malu (S)


Siapa tahu.....?emoticon-Big Grin Dulu gw liat Indo Defence 2004 ngeliat iklannya Buk, dijelasin di situ Buk bisa nembak jatuh F-117.emoticon-Big Grin


su-35 affordable export-friendly stealth??
Quote:Original Posted By mengkom
su-35 affordable export-friendly stealth??


F 35 itu.. emoticon-Big Grin
liat lagi deh coba...
Quote:Original Posted By cherrybombers


F 35 itu.. emoticon-Big Grin
liat lagi deh coba...

ooo hehe..mata ane siwer emoticon-Stick Out Tongue
Su-35 lbh jago dr F-22
karena 35>>22

jd kudu dilawan sama F-35... kan imbang 35=35


















emoticon-Ngacir
Quote:Original Posted By cherrybombers
jenis trit yg melanggar RoE kan. emoticon-Big Grin
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pegang F 22.. there is something about stealth aircraft yg bisa digunakan untuk pendadakan...


agree with this emoticon-Smilie
kalo su-35bm bisa menghadapi f22, rusky gak akan repot2 bikin PAK-FA emoticon-Smilie
Quote:Original Posted By focus.user
Su-35 lbh jago dr F-22
karena 35>>22

jd kudu dilawan sama F-35... kan imbang 35=35
emoticon-Ngacir


kalo gitu kita retrofit aja F-105 thunderchief
kemampuannya 3 kali lipat Su-35
emoticon-Matabelo
retrofit-teros-ampe-kiamat setroooong \emoticon-Big Grin/
Quote:Original Posted By kimi mabok


agree with this emoticon-Smilie
kalo su-35bm bisa menghadapi f22, rusky gak akan repot2 bikin PAK-FA emoticon-Smilie


Su 35 menang di manuver aja tapi gak punya sifat stealth itu dasar kenapa PAK FA dibuat