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All about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!

Well, Helloooo ^^

I've noticed some mistranslation or misused words, phrases, etc here and there. And instead of posting it somewhere at the available threads to avoid the chance of having it lost or forgotten, I just thought it would be great if it had its own thread. I hope it's OK with you, Mod emoticon-Smilie

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OK, I know sometimes we translate literally from Indo to English. I know I did, well I do...sometimes emoticon-Wink So here are the correct way to say some in English:

-Thanks before = emoticon-thumbdown
-Thanks in advance, thanks beforehand = emoticon-thumbsup:
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-Beside of that = emoticon-thumbdown
-Besides = emoticon-thumbsup:
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-Worthed = emoticon-thumbdown
-Worth it = emoticon-thumbsup:

Using "Worth" in a sentence:
-It is worth more than a penny = emoticon-thumbsup:
-That thing is not worth doing = emoticon-thumbsup:
-It worths more than a penny = emoticon-thumbdown
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Here's funny one and I still can't believe people still use it. emoticon-Wink

A: Thank you.
B: Come back, same-same = emoticon-thumbdown

A: Thank you
B: You're welcome, no problem, don't mention it, don't worry about it = emoticon-thumbsup:
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A friend of mine said this a while back:

I'm going to leave too long for me to tell you when I will be home.

Bemused at first, then finally understood what he meant. So, the best way:

I'm going to leave indefinitely
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-I'm going walking-walking at the beach = emoticon-thumbdown
-I'm taking a stroll along the beach = emoticon-thumbsup:
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-He ran like he was chased by a ghost = emoticon-thumbdown
-He ran as if he was chased by a ghost = emoticon-thumbsup:

How to use Like? Don't use it as a conjunction. Usually Like is followed by an object.
E.g. He looks like you.
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-Do you want to eat outside? = emoticon-thumbdown
-Do you want to eat out? = emoticon-thumbsup:

#1: Loose for lose
emoticon-thumbdown I always loose the product key.
emoticon-thumbsup: I always lose the product key.

#2: It's for its (or god forbid, its'emoticon-Wink
emoticon-thumbdown Download the HTA, along with it's readme file.
emoticon-thumbsup: Download the HTA, along with its readme file.

emoticon-thumbdown The laptop is overheating and its making that funny noise again.
emoticon-thumbsup: The laptop is overheating and it's making that funny noise again.

#3: They're for their for there
emoticon-thumbdown The managers are in they're weekly planning meeting.
emoticon-thumbsup: The managers are in their weekly planning meeting.

emoticon-thumbdown The techs have to check there cell phones at the door, and their not happy about it.
emoticon-thumbsup: The techs have to check their cell phones at the door, and they're not happy about it.

#4: i.e. for e.g.
emoticon-thumbdown Use an anti-spyware program (i.e., Ad-Aware).
emoticon-thumbsup: Use an anti-spyware program (e.g., Ad-Aware).
Note:
The term i.e. means "that is"; e.g. means "for example". And a comma follows both of them.


#5: Effect for affect
emoticon-thumbdown The outage shouldn't effect any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage shouldn't have any effect on users.
emoticon-thumbsup: We will effect several changes during the downtime.

Note:
Impact is not a verb. Purists, at least, beg you to use affect instead.

emoticon-thumbdown The outage shouldn't impact any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage should have no impact on users during work hours.

#6: You're for your
emoticon-thumbdown Remember to defrag you're machine on a regular basis.
emoticon-thumbsup: Remember to defrag your machine on a regular basis.

emoticon-thumbdown Your right about the changes.
emoticon-thumbsup: You're right about the changes.

#7: Different than for different from
emoticon-thumbdown This setup is different than the one at the main office.
emoticon-thumbsup: This setup is different from the one at the main office.
emoticon-thumbsup: This setup is better than the one at the main office.

#8 Lay for lie
emoticon-thumbdown I got dizzy and had to lay down.
emoticon-thumbsup: I got dizzy and had to lie down.
emoticon-thumbsup: Just lay those books over there.

#9: Then for than
emoticon-thumbdown The accounting department had more problems then we did.
emoticon-thumbsup: The accounting department had more problems than we did.

Note:
Here's a sub-peeve. When a sentence construction begins with If, you don't need a then. Then is implicit, so it's superfluous and wordy.

emoticon-thumbdown If you can't get Windows to boot, then you'll need to call Ted.
emoticon-thumbsup: If you can't get Windows to boot, you'll need to call Ted.

#10: Could of, would of for could have, would have
emoticon-thumbdown I could of installed that app by mistake.
emoticon-thumbsup: I could have installed that app by mistake.

emoticon-thumbdown I would of sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.
emoticon-thumbsup: I would have sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.

#11 Entitle for deserve

emoticon-thumbdown He did a lot of bad things in the past. He is entitled to have bad karma.
emoticon-thumbsup: He did a lot of bad things in the past. He deserves bad karma.

Entitle is mostly used to furnish with a right or claim to something/someone, mostly in a good way.
emoticon-thumbsup: The coupon entitles the bearer to a 25 percent savings.

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I remember Ross had an argument with the other "Friends" gang about WHO, WHOM, and WHOSE.

WHO is used to ask which person does an action.
E.g. Who is going to pay for it?

WHOM is used to ask which person receives an action.
E.g. Whom did he blame for the loss?

WHOSE is used to ask which person something belongs to.
E.g. Whose Ipod is this?

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English words with disputed usage: (It means they are still debatable, and most of them are not even Standard English but widely used in public.)

A very intriguing question from Waffen-SS:

Comprise, are/is comprised of, constitute, consist of
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are/is comprised of is still debatable. My suggestion is NOT using it at all.

Comprise ->
1. to include especially within a particular scope;
2. to be made up of;
3. compose, constitute

Consist ->
1. lie, reside (used with in);
2. a. exist, be; b. to be capable of existing;
3. to be compsed or made up (used with of);
4. to be consistent

The programme comprises two short plays. = emoticon-thumbsup:
The programme consisted of two short plays. = emoticon-thumbsup:
The club house constitutes more than 70% of the residents = emoticon-thumbsup:

Rooms comprise a house = disputed usage
A house is comprised of rooms = disputed usage
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Ain't Originally a contraction of "am not", this word is widely used as a replacement for "aren't", "isn't", "haven't" and "hasn't". It is not a Standard English. Only use it for informal conversation or writings.
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Alright An alternative to "all right" that some consider illiterate but others allow.
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GOT for Has/Have

A: What kind of shirt do you got there?
B: I got a black shirt
= Disputed usage, widely used.

A: What kind of shirt do you have there?
B: I have a black shirt.
= emoticon-thumbsup:
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Not one of those how to say/use. Just several useful tips to improve your writing skill.

NON-FICTION

#1 Start with a topic. Brainstorming is always a good way to start. Simply make a list of topics you would like to write on a piece of paper.

#2 Please, and by all means, do some research on each of them. Try to gather enough information before you start doing the first draft.

#3 People often make mistakes by squishing in every single word to the essay as an attempt to make it look longer, and that includes rambling about “out of the topic” materials. Just simply focus on one topic. If you think it is too short, move on to the next one. If it’s too broad, vague, then try to get more specific topic.

#4 Begin to write your first draft of the topic of your choice. It’s OK to be messy at first. That’s why we call it, first draft.

#5 Every essay starts with an introduction, contents, and conclusion. Don’t leave your readers hanging by not including the conclusion. One important thing when it comes about writing non-fiction essay, don’t leave your readers with more questions for you to answer.

#6 Check your first draft. Do more research if it’s necessary and begin composing your second draft, third, and so on until you think you are comfortable enough to write your final essay. Remember to always check for misspelled, grammar errors, etc.

#7 Begin typing your final essay.

#8 Voila! You are done!


FICTION

It follows the same pattern, but Fiction has more requirements, such as character development, outtakes, POV, plot, dialogues, setting, and of course…your imagination. Pay attention to the rules as well.

For examples:
-Italic in fiction/novels is to indicate character’s thought process.

-Quotation mark is for dialogues

-And many more.


*Tips:

-Avoid using many who, which, etc.

-Try not to use the same word in one sentence or a paragraph over and over.
Good: "Are you crazy?!" He yelled. I couldn't believe he just bellowed at me.
Bad: "Are you crazy?!" He yelled. I couldn't believe he just yelled at me.

-Try to condense instead of starting a new sentence each time unless you want to use it for a dramatic purpose.
Good: I didn't go to school that day because I was sick.
Bad: I didn't go to school that day. I was sick.

-Lastly, be careful in using dot (.) in your sentence or paragraph. It could be misleading. I think it's better if we just avoid using (......) unless you know how to use it correctly. I know stopping a habit can be pain in the a**, I tend to use it in the wrong context as well (*guilty*)
Good: "He is a ... killer." --> Ellipsis (...) is used to indicate a pause.
Bad: Hello, my name is John........I am a student....... ---> It looks like a fill-in-the-blank, ey?


Generally, Essay should be double-spaced, one inch margins, 10-12 Times New Roman or Arial. Unless, your teacher, or whoever wants it gives you specific instruction.
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Hope it's useful.

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kalau boleh,ane izin ikut diskusi ya gan......
yang ane cetak merah, setau ane ini namanya "parts of speech" (jenis2 kata atau kelas2 kata dalam bahasa inggris yang dapat diubah menjadi jenis kata lainnya sehingga memiliki bentuk dan makna yang baru)

1. setau ane kata sifat bisa dijadikan noun dengan cara penambahan akhiran "-ce", "-cy", "-tion", "-ness", "-ty". misalnya convenient menjadi convenience, redundant menjadi redundancy, opposite menjadi opposition, soft menjadi softness, durable menjadi durability.
2. setau ane kata kerja bisa dijadikan noun dengan penambahan akhiran "-age", "-ance", "-ence", "-ment", "-sion/-tion". misalnya store diubah menjadi storage, accept menjadi acceptance, insist menjadi insistence, agree menjadi agreement, authorize menjadi "authorization".
3.Kalau ane biasanya cara belajarnya dengan cara menghapal akhirannya gan. misalnya noun biasanya berakhiran dengan "-ce", "-cy", "-tion", "-ness", "-ty", "-age", "-ance", "-ence", "-ment". adj biasanya berakhiran "-able/-ible", "-al", "-ant", "-ent", "-y", contohnya possible, intentional, distant, frequent, juicy.
4. Ada beberapa pengecualian, misalnya complement. complement walaupun berakhiran "ment" belum tentu selalu kata benda, bisa juga berupa kata kerja, karena complement bisa sebagai verb dan bisa juga sebagai noun.

CMIIW. mohon dikoreksi jika ane salah ya gan, maklum ane baru tahap belajar.....
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