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[FOREX] Hati-hati sama Roger Goh Kek Keong - Penipu WN Singapura - Part 2
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Hi agan kaskuser semuanya,
Saya ingin berbagi cerita dan kalau ada yang bersedia membantu menyelesaikan masalah ini melalui jalur hukum, bantuannya yang pasti akan dihargai. Link saya sebelumnya ada di http://www.kaskus.co.id/showthread.php?t=6041778
Tujuan utama saya adalah membeberkan fakta siapa itu Roger Goh Kok Keong supaya tidak ada kaskuser yang tertipu oleh orang yang sangat tidak pegang komitmen, meskipun ada bukti hitam di atas putih dengan materai segel. Yang saya beberkan di sini adalah fakta dengan bukti. Apabila dalam kenyataannya, thread ini mengganggu kinerja perusahaan-perusahaan yang memakai jasa manusia satu ini, itu bukanlah urusan saya. Silahkan pecat si Roger dari perusahaan Anda dan business keeps going.
Begini ceritanya:
Pada awal Maret 2010, saya dan beberapa teman bersepakat untuk membuka akun di PT Sinar*** Futu*** dengan iming-iming yang sangat manis. Kebetulan marketer-nya adalah teman kami, sebut saja Mr. X.
Mr. X ini bekerja di suatu perusahaan dimana perusahaan tersebut adalah sebuah perusahaan trading consultant dan education yang di-hire oleh PT Sinar*** Futu***. Mr. X bekerja di bawah owner perusahaan tersebut yaitu Roger Goh Kok Keong, dimana pada saat tersebut surat legal Roger belum selesai sehingga tidak ada nama Roger yang dipakai di dalam perusahaan tersebut. Dengan berbekal nama 3G Dreamworks International PL (3G Capital Group) yang berbasis di Singapura, mulailah si Roger mencari klien. Dengan iming-iming yang manis, membuktikan bahwa dia hampir selalu menang dalam transaksi forex, dan satu lagi JAMINAN bahwa uang yang kita setor untuk dimainkan hanya akan mengalami rugi maksimum sebesar 20% (lihat Statement of Intent yang ditandatangani oleh Roger), maka kami membuka akun trading pada tanggal 8 Maret 2010 atas nama Mr. E (salah satu teman saya yang sukarela namanya dipakai).
Mr. X memang mendapatkan training intensif dari Roger sebelum dia memainkan uang kita dan kegiatan tradingnya-pun di-supervisi oleh atasannya yaitu Roger. Beberapa posisi yang terjadi juga disarankan oleh Roger, yang pada akhirnya menyebabkan kita di loss position lumayan besar. Balance terakhir equity sisa 11%.
Yang membuat saya kesal adalah rasa tidak berterimakasih si Roger yang sudah membuat pernyataan bahwa akan mengembalikan sisa 80% uang kita dengan batas waktu pada tanggal 30 Juni 2010. Berikut adalah email dari Roger pada tanggal 30 Juni 2010 dimana dia meminta perpanjangan waktu di hari H (email di-copy apa adanya dengan mengubah nama Mr. X dan Mr. E karena alasan privasi). Kata-kata All 3 friends that shared this account can attend our Basic Level training for free membuat saya tersenyum sendiri. Setelah dipikir2, bagaimana dia bisa memberikan training kepada kami dimana kekalahan/loss position di trading account kami disebabkan kebodohan Roger sendiri yang salah ambil posisi.
Setelah kami berunding, kami memutuskan seperti di bawah ini yang di-email oleh Mr. E ke Roger:
Nah disini Roger sudah mulai mengelak akan janjinya dengan berkata As far I understand from Mr. X is I had committed to make good your trading acct mentioned above to 80% of your initial investment by 30th June 2010. Padahal di dalam Statement of Intent, dia berjanji akan mengembalikan uang kami tanpa syarat apapun.
Lagi-lagi si Roger minta perpanjangan waktu dan kami cukup sabar memberikan dia waktu sampai akhir Juli 2010.
Tanggal 6 Juli, Roger reply email:
Karena tidak ada kabar, Mr. E mengirimkan email ke Roger tanggal 21 Juli 2010 menanyakan janji dia akhir bulan Juli 2010:
Untuk kesekian kalinya, si Roger ini berkelit minta perpanjangan waktu dan sekarang minta pembayarannya dibagi dalam beberapa periode.
Saya ingin berbagi cerita dan kalau ada yang bersedia membantu menyelesaikan masalah ini melalui jalur hukum, bantuannya yang pasti akan dihargai. Link saya sebelumnya ada di http://www.kaskus.co.id/showthread.php?t=6041778
Tujuan utama saya adalah membeberkan fakta siapa itu Roger Goh Kok Keong supaya tidak ada kaskuser yang tertipu oleh orang yang sangat tidak pegang komitmen, meskipun ada bukti hitam di atas putih dengan materai segel. Yang saya beberkan di sini adalah fakta dengan bukti. Apabila dalam kenyataannya, thread ini mengganggu kinerja perusahaan-perusahaan yang memakai jasa manusia satu ini, itu bukanlah urusan saya. Silahkan pecat si Roger dari perusahaan Anda dan business keeps going.
Begini ceritanya:
Pada awal Maret 2010, saya dan beberapa teman bersepakat untuk membuka akun di PT Sinar*** Futu*** dengan iming-iming yang sangat manis. Kebetulan marketer-nya adalah teman kami, sebut saja Mr. X.
Mr. X ini bekerja di suatu perusahaan dimana perusahaan tersebut adalah sebuah perusahaan trading consultant dan education yang di-hire oleh PT Sinar*** Futu***. Mr. X bekerja di bawah owner perusahaan tersebut yaitu Roger Goh Kok Keong, dimana pada saat tersebut surat legal Roger belum selesai sehingga tidak ada nama Roger yang dipakai di dalam perusahaan tersebut. Dengan berbekal nama 3G Dreamworks International PL (3G Capital Group) yang berbasis di Singapura, mulailah si Roger mencari klien. Dengan iming-iming yang manis, membuktikan bahwa dia hampir selalu menang dalam transaksi forex, dan satu lagi JAMINAN bahwa uang yang kita setor untuk dimainkan hanya akan mengalami rugi maksimum sebesar 20% (lihat Statement of Intent yang ditandatangani oleh Roger), maka kami membuka akun trading pada tanggal 8 Maret 2010 atas nama Mr. E (salah satu teman saya yang sukarela namanya dipakai).
Mr. X memang mendapatkan training intensif dari Roger sebelum dia memainkan uang kita dan kegiatan tradingnya-pun di-supervisi oleh atasannya yaitu Roger. Beberapa posisi yang terjadi juga disarankan oleh Roger, yang pada akhirnya menyebabkan kita di loss position lumayan besar. Balance terakhir equity sisa 11%.
Yang membuat saya kesal adalah rasa tidak berterimakasih si Roger yang sudah membuat pernyataan bahwa akan mengembalikan sisa 80% uang kita dengan batas waktu pada tanggal 30 Juni 2010. Berikut adalah email dari Roger pada tanggal 30 Juni 2010 dimana dia meminta perpanjangan waktu di hari H (email di-copy apa adanya dengan mengubah nama Mr. X dan Mr. E karena alasan privasi). Kata-kata All 3 friends that shared this account can attend our Basic Level training for free membuat saya tersenyum sendiri. Setelah dipikir2, bagaimana dia bisa memberikan training kepada kami dimana kekalahan/loss position di trading account kami disebabkan kebodohan Roger sendiri yang salah ambil posisi.
Spoiler for "Statement of Intent":
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Spoiler for "Email dari Roger Goh (30 Juni 2010):":
Hello Mr. E (nama saya samarkan),
How are you? First and foremost my apologies for my absence in Jakarta this week because of my hectic business projects requiring me to be in Singapore, Malaysia and China; however I am scheduling myself to be in Jakarta next week. Hopefully we can meet then.
Reference to the above-mentioned account, I am requesting an extension of 1 more month (July) to meet the recovery of 80% of initial investment equity for the above-mentioned account as agreed. Please read below the justification, my commitment and objective:
Justification
- The account was passed to me at a position which is critical but I am confident of recovering;
- Unfortunately the June commencement of the World Cup in South Africa has caused the market to be less active and very little trading opportunities for me, I believe July will be a much more volatile market and a lot more opportunities for me to do recovery;
Commitment
- To show my commitment, I will inject monies into the above-mentioned account to facilitate the recovery;
- All 3 friends that shared this account can attend our Basic Level training for free;
- We will provide 3 months of advisory services to all (i.e. those who attended the Basic Level training) to assist your trading
Objective
I believe and trust that we both want to realize the investment and profits returns. With this win win objective in mind, I hope you agree to my request.
Yours faithfully
Roger Goh
How are you? First and foremost my apologies for my absence in Jakarta this week because of my hectic business projects requiring me to be in Singapore, Malaysia and China; however I am scheduling myself to be in Jakarta next week. Hopefully we can meet then.
Reference to the above-mentioned account, I am requesting an extension of 1 more month (July) to meet the recovery of 80% of initial investment equity for the above-mentioned account as agreed. Please read below the justification, my commitment and objective:
Justification
- The account was passed to me at a position which is critical but I am confident of recovering;
- Unfortunately the June commencement of the World Cup in South Africa has caused the market to be less active and very little trading opportunities for me, I believe July will be a much more volatile market and a lot more opportunities for me to do recovery;
Commitment
- To show my commitment, I will inject monies into the above-mentioned account to facilitate the recovery;
- All 3 friends that shared this account can attend our Basic Level training for free;
- We will provide 3 months of advisory services to all (i.e. those who attended the Basic Level training) to assist your trading
Objective
I believe and trust that we both want to realize the investment and profits returns. With this win win objective in mind, I hope you agree to my request.
Yours faithfully
Roger Goh
Setelah kami berunding, kami memutuskan seperti di bawah ini yang di-email oleh Mr. E ke Roger:
Spoiler for "Reply dari Mr. E (2 Juli 2010):":
Dear Roger,
I have spoken to my partners, and we are sorry to say that we do not agree upon your request.
First and foremost, the extension to June 30th was already the third that we have granted. So far, we have not received satisfaction.
Secondly, today is already July 2nd, it is past the agreed settlement date. If this request was going to be presented to us, we think that it should have been done at least before the settlement date of June, 30th. We have requested information on how settlement will take place since the end of last week, and there had been no response. The day you emailed should be the settlement day, but instead what we received was another request for an extension. We believe we have given you ample opportunities.
Regarding your commitment to inject, we would like to know the amount you have in mind. Especially in the past month of June, we have been closely monitoring the trading that has taken place, and given the performance so far, we do not prefer to dwell much longer. In our minds, and as a show of goodwill from your side, the capital injection should bring the portfolio to at least 80% of the initial capital.
We grant you an extension for the settlement to Wednesday, July 7th, 2010. By this date, we require the funds of Rp. 120,000,000 to be deposited in our account by whatever means necessary. By law, you have agreed to return Rp. 120,000,000 on June 30th, 2010.
If by July 7th we have not received settlement, then we will have no choice but to proceed by legal means, which we do not prefer. We still believe that a businessman of your stature will simply require a gentlemens agreement.
Regards,
Mr. E
I have spoken to my partners, and we are sorry to say that we do not agree upon your request.
First and foremost, the extension to June 30th was already the third that we have granted. So far, we have not received satisfaction.
Secondly, today is already July 2nd, it is past the agreed settlement date. If this request was going to be presented to us, we think that it should have been done at least before the settlement date of June, 30th. We have requested information on how settlement will take place since the end of last week, and there had been no response. The day you emailed should be the settlement day, but instead what we received was another request for an extension. We believe we have given you ample opportunities.
Regarding your commitment to inject, we would like to know the amount you have in mind. Especially in the past month of June, we have been closely monitoring the trading that has taken place, and given the performance so far, we do not prefer to dwell much longer. In our minds, and as a show of goodwill from your side, the capital injection should bring the portfolio to at least 80% of the initial capital.
We grant you an extension for the settlement to Wednesday, July 7th, 2010. By this date, we require the funds of Rp. 120,000,000 to be deposited in our account by whatever means necessary. By law, you have agreed to return Rp. 120,000,000 on June 30th, 2010.
If by July 7th we have not received settlement, then we will have no choice but to proceed by legal means, which we do not prefer. We still believe that a businessman of your stature will simply require a gentlemens agreement.
Regards,
Mr. E
Nah disini Roger sudah mulai mengelak akan janjinya dengan berkata As far I understand from Mr. X is I had committed to make good your trading acct mentioned above to 80% of your initial investment by 30th June 2010. Padahal di dalam Statement of Intent, dia berjanji akan mengembalikan uang kami tanpa syarat apapun.
Spoiler for "Reply dari Roger Goh (5 Juli 2010):":
Dear Mr. E,
Reference to your email below, I believe there's a miscommunication between us. As far I understand from Mr. X (nama di-sensor) is I had committed to make good your trading acct mentioned above to 80% of your initial investment by 30th June 2010. Moreover I only took over the trading acct in June and this will be my 1st n last time to request for an extension. As I mentioned earlier in my email to you that it's unfortunate that the market did not allow me much opportunities to fulfil the recovery in June, thus the request for an extension.
I hope this clarifys any misunderstanding, however please allow me to show you in this week, how your trading acct will changed for the better.
Regards,
Roger
Reference to your email below, I believe there's a miscommunication between us. As far I understand from Mr. X (nama di-sensor) is I had committed to make good your trading acct mentioned above to 80% of your initial investment by 30th June 2010. Moreover I only took over the trading acct in June and this will be my 1st n last time to request for an extension. As I mentioned earlier in my email to you that it's unfortunate that the market did not allow me much opportunities to fulfil the recovery in June, thus the request for an extension.
I hope this clarifys any misunderstanding, however please allow me to show you in this week, how your trading acct will changed for the better.
Regards,
Roger
Lagi-lagi si Roger minta perpanjangan waktu dan kami cukup sabar memberikan dia waktu sampai akhir Juli 2010.
Spoiler for "Reply dari Mr. E (5 Juli 2010):":
Dear Roger,
You have until the end of July to fulfill your promises. How and when are you going to facilitate the addition of funds into this account?
Regards,
Mr. E
You have until the end of July to fulfill your promises. How and when are you going to facilitate the addition of funds into this account?
Regards,
Mr. E
Tanggal 6 Juli, Roger reply email:
Spoiler for "Reply dari Roger (6 Juli 2010):":
Dear Mr. E,
Thank you for your understanding and I will advise you accordingly when the funds is ready to be injected into your trading account.
Regards,
Roger
Thank you for your understanding and I will advise you accordingly when the funds is ready to be injected into your trading account.
Regards,
Roger
Karena tidak ada kabar, Mr. E mengirimkan email ke Roger tanggal 21 Juli 2010 menanyakan janji dia akhir bulan Juli 2010:
Spoiler for "Email dari Mr. E (21 Juli 2010):":
Dear Roger,
Hope all is going well with the trading of our account.
As you know, it is nearing the end of the month which means it is closer to our settlement date. I hope you would fulfill our agreement in due time.
Meanwhile, please update us on our current account position. Strangely I have not received any daily reports for the past weeks. Your update would be most appreciated.
Regards,
Mr. E
Hope all is going well with the trading of our account.
As you know, it is nearing the end of the month which means it is closer to our settlement date. I hope you would fulfill our agreement in due time.
Meanwhile, please update us on our current account position. Strangely I have not received any daily reports for the past weeks. Your update would be most appreciated.
Regards,
Mr. E
Untuk kesekian kalinya, si Roger ini berkelit minta perpanjangan waktu dan sekarang minta pembayarannya dibagi dalam beberapa periode.
Spoiler for "Reply dari Roger (30 Juli 2010):":
Dear Mr. E,
As today is the settlement date for the above-mentioned account, I am proposing the repayment schedule to your group :
repayment over 10(ten) instalments on 15th and 30th of every month over 5 months with the 1st repayment on 15th Aug.
Please provide your bank details for me to wire the repyament into your account.
Regards,
Roger
As today is the settlement date for the above-mentioned account, I am proposing the repayment schedule to your group :
repayment over 10(ten) instalments on 15th and 30th of every month over 5 months with the 1st repayment on 15th Aug.
Please provide your bank details for me to wire the repyament into your account.
Regards,
Roger
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