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Analisis: Italia Kemungkinan Akan Beli MBT Baru
Quote:New Italian Tank To Be Funded As Cash for Freccia Vehicle Slows

Tom Kington, Defense News
4 hours ago

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Germano Dottori, a lecturer in strategic studies at Rome’s LUISS University, said that Italian Army generals might also be routing for a new battle tank.

“What they might be better off buying are Leopard II tanks, which is what the generals want,” Dottori said.

The Army is now down to about 30 functioning Arietes — its main battle tank — after savage cuts to maintenance budgets left many tanks without parts and out of service, he said.

Dottori said the Leopard II had recently beaten the Ariete in a NATO firing test, upping its reputation in Italy.

“If Italy wanted to go into Libya, its hands would be tied because it does not have battle tanks,” he said.



Source: http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...icle/84642530/

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Ariete MBT tinggal 30 unit yang operasional...
Buset cuma 30
Segitu banyak effort dan research pada akhirnya cuma operasional 30?
Kasusnya mirip sama rooivalk afsel
Sekali lagi nunjukin pentingnya market research sebelom bikin proyek emoticon-Stick Out Tongue
Ngiler juga sama leo 2,ayo indo ambil lagi sebelum stok yg digudang jerman diborong negara lain.
Tuh kan leyooo nya di lirik lagi.... mudah2an italia beli leyo nya banyak biar di sini nggak kebagian kalo mau beli leyo lagi... biar di disini beli MBT 3000 aja... emoticon-Berduka (S)
Quote:The Army is now down to about 30 functioning Arietes — its main battle tank — after savage cuts to maintenance budgets left many tanks without parts and out of service, he said.

dari yg katanya 200 biji itu? nyisa 30? emoticon-Hammer2
biaya maintenancenya muahal buanget kali ya?
US 7th Army JMTC - Leopard 2A6 Main Battle Tanks & C1 Ariete Main Battle Tanks.

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Bukti mahalnya sebuah kemandirian alutsista..
Padahal italy sudah punya industri alutsista yg mumpuni dibawah finmeccanica.
Kasian ya ariete..
Atiete mau dibuang kemana tuh. Ada yg make ariete gak ya?

Rasanya priduksi untuk matra laut itali lebih terkenal deh ama pistol berettanya. Sayang ar nya beretta ar 70 ga laku kalah ama fnc n hk
Quote:Original Posted By supermarine
US 7th Army JMTC - Leopard 2A6 Main Battle Tanks & C1 Ariete Main Battle Tanks.

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amo amo amo
Quote:Original Posted By mengkom
Buset cuma 30
Segitu banyak effort dan research pada akhirnya cuma operasional 30?
Kasusnya mirip sama rooivalk afsel
Sekali lagi nunjukin pentingnya market research sebelom bikin proyek emoticon-Stick Out Tongue


padahal secara kapabilitas kayaknya ariete juga sekaliber ama leopard 2 dan abrams ya CMIIW
kalau baca di wiki katanya mau di kembangkan ke type c2 ini ariete
Quote:Original Posted By supermarine
US 7th Army JMTC - Leopard 2A6 Main Battle Tanks & C1 Ariete Main Battle Tanks.

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kebanyakan meleset tembakannya. Kelihatan cuma 2 kali kena d bagian akhir video.
Komen2 d video nya jg banyak yg ngejek emoticon-Big Grin
Quote:Original Posted By notanonymous


kebanyakan meleset tembakannya. Kelihatan cuma 2 kali kena d bagian akhir video.
Komen2 d video nya jg banyak yg ngejek emoticon-Big Grin

Padahal Ariete berada pada posisi ke empat. Screenshot hasil lengkap:

Analisis: Italia Kemungkinan Akan Beli MBT Baru


Source: http://www.mihalko-family.com/Canadi...ition.htm#SETC



Quote:Original Posted By supermarine

Padahal Ariete berada pada posisi ke empat. Screenshot hasil lengkap:

Analisis: Italia Kemungkinan Akan Beli MBT Baru


Source: http://www.mihalko-family.com/Canadi...ition.htm#SETC




soalnya, yg dilombakan cenderung skill dari crew nya, bukan tank nya.

"Crews conducted both offensive and defensive operations involving fire and maneuver for 350 possible points in each lane.

Mounted orienteering had a possible 300 points that was combined from six 50-point tasks, including a mystery physical challenge that emphasized teamwork. Platoons navigated through an obstacle course with 13 challenges. Soldiers fired 10 rounds from three different locations using their own service weapons during the combat pistol shoot lane. The vehicle identification lane tested the platoons' abilities to identify 25 friendly and threatening vehicles while traversing through a course. Crews had to recover, hook up and tow vehicles while under a simulated chemical attack. Finally, multinational teams reacted to an improvised explosive device, assessed and treated a casualty, and requested a medical evacuation."
https://www.army.mil/article/167842/...ank_Challenge/
hmmm T-72M4CZ unit unable to attend
kenapa ya
ada masalah, rusak?
Quote:Original Posted By notanonymous


kebanyakan meleset tembakannya. Kelihatan cuma 2 kali kena d bagian akhir video.
Komen2 d video nya jg banyak yg ngejek emoticon-Big Grin

Mungkin ini bisa menjelaskan kenapa Ariete banyak meleset tembakannya gan.

Quote:The Italians were said to have sucked on the first day because the platoon had previously been on anti-terror duties and not done much tanking for two years, allegedly exhibiting a strange way to zero their guns, but delivered the best performance of all in a stage on the second day.

Quote:The italian crew messed up calibrating their Arietes the first day and consequently shot low a commenter on augengeradeaus.net said. Which explains their results I think.

https://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthrea...-allies/page12




Nemu ini dari Tank Encyclopedia December 1, 2014 soal Signora Ariete...

Quote:Due to the nature of the V12 FIAT-Iveco, a greater RPM was needed to obtain better performances, at the cost of more wearing of the components and their shorter lifespan. Reliability problems emerged but these were compensated by greater speeds, and IVECO started in the 2000s to upgrade the engine, with lengthened strokes (30 litres), a new common rail direct fuel injection system and a new double turbocharger, giving a max output of 1600 hp at 1800 rpm (1200 kw), and electroniclly controlled torque to spare the transmission. OTO Melara is also aimed at upgrading the armor, with its new adjunted sets first shown at Eurosatory 2002. Due to financial delays, these upgrades were long postponed but are currently scheduled for this decade.

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/mo...Ariete-MBT.php

Biaya perawatan jadi tinggi.......
Quote:Original Posted By supermarine

Mungkin ini bisa menjelaskan kenapa Ariete banyak meleset tembakannya gan.





https://aw.my.com/en/forum/showthrea...-allies/page12






loh, tanker kok ada latihan anti terror, gan? emoticon-Bingung (S)
Quote:Original Posted By notanonymous


loh, tanker kok ada latihan anti terror, gan? emoticon-Bingung (S)


Masih nyambung gan...
Lah disini semuanya harus bisa nangkap maling ikan
Sory oot