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Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia

HND (Henan Diesel Engine Corp, LTD) won a contract to supply 8 High-speed Marine Diesel Engine CHD622V20 to Russia. 4 each would power two Buyan-M-class corvettes to replace German MTU 16V4000M90s. Reportedly HND will deliver additional engines for all last 4 ships (serial no.636 to 639) with delivery around 2017-2019.

Original Source (News Bahasa Russia) :
http://xn----7sbbagmgoc8bze5h.xn--p1...-proekta/28948
Translate-an English :
https://translate.google.com/transla...2F1813976.html

Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia
China's (Henan Diesel Engine Corp, LTD) HND High-speed Marine Diesel Engine CHD622V20.

Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia

China (HND Corp) memenangkan Kontrak Pengadaan 8 Unit High-speed Marine Diesel Engine CHD622V20 untuk 4 Buyan-M Class Corvette Russia. Waktu Pengiriman tahun 2017-2019.

Tumben Media Barat dan Russia pada Silent nih.

Masih ada yang bilang Perkembangan Teknologi Engine di China masih penuh dengan masalah dan tidak selesai-selesai? emoticon-Big Grin

Diubah oleh: people.news
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Chinese diesel engines for small missile ships of the project 21631

As I reported in his interview to the end of 2015. General Director of JSC "Zelenodolsk Plant named after AM Gorky "(included in the JSC" Holding company "Ak Bars") Renat Mistahov, nine ongoing construction at the plant for the Russian Navy small missile ships of the project 21631 (code "Buyan-M"), only five (introduced commissioned ships with serial numbers 631 to 635) received the expected project German diesel engines MTU 16V4000M90. Further delivery of MTU engines has been suspended due to the introduction of the European Union sanctions against Russia in 2014.

Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia
High-speed marine diesel engine production CHD622V20 Chinese company Henan Diesel Engine Industry Co., Ltd, acquired for equipment built for the Russian Navy small missile ships of the project 21631 (c) Henan Diesel Engine Industry


In view of this the other four MRC project 21631 (serial numbers with 636 on 639), are in the stage of construction, with the term of delivery Zelenodolsk Russian Navy in the years 2017-2019, should have diesel engines in China. From the known data, it should be High-speed 20-cylinder marine diesel engines CHD622V20 3200 kW power class manufacturing enterprises of Chinese Henan Diesel Engine Industry Co., Ltd (HND, located in Jianxi District of Luoyang City, Henan Province, is a member of the Chinese state Shina Shipbuilding Corporation Shipbuilding Industry Corporation - CSIC).

Enterprise diesels NHD was commissioned in 1958. Since the 1980s, it produces diesel engines under license from the German company Deutz-MWM, and since 2007 - as the engines under license from MAN B & W Diesel AG. Nevertheless, CHD622V20 engine, certified at the end of 2013, stated as a fully NHD own development, with full intellectual property rights.

In September 2015, Chinese sources said that the NHD was awarded contracts from the Russian customer for the supply of eight engines CHD622V20 (that is, for two ships of the project 21631). Supplier HND CHD622V20 engines for the Russian Navy ships serves the St. Petersburg LLC "Marine Propulsion Systems". December 25, 2014, it announced that concluded with a COMP ANIES Henan Diesel Engine Industry Co, Ltd. "Specializing in the production of high-quality marine engine series TBD604BL6, TBD620V8, V12, V16, CHD622V20 and diesel generator sets," exclusive agency (dealer) agreement "to supply Henan Diesel Engine Industry Co, Ltd. of equipment on the territory of the Russian Federation." According to the agreement, "Henan Diesel Engine Industry Co, Ltd. is committed to providing full technical / commercial support and after sales service for the engine and diesel generator sets, as well as spare parts for OOO" Marine Propulsion Systems "and their contractors."

In tabular characteristics (Henan Diesel Engine) HND CHD622V20 engine bp compared with diesel MTU 16V4000M90 has a long duration maximum power (3129 kW vs. 2720 kW),
and a larger number of turns on the long-term maximum output (2300 vs. 2100),
with comparable fuel efficiency (198 vs. 209 grams of fuel per kilowatt at one o'clock).

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High Speed Marine Diesel Engine dari China yang dipake untuk 4 Korvet Buyan-M Russia berikutnya, bakal lebih Bertenaga, Maximum Output nya lebih Besar juga, dan Lebih Hemat BBM emoticon-Big Grin
dibanding Engine dari German sebelumnya.

Diubah oleh people.news
Russia is going to to replace German MTU engine with TBD20V12 diesel engines built by HND's (Henen Diesel Engine Corp, LTD) for their Project 21980 Grachonok class of patrol boats because of sanctions. TBD20V12 is one of a series of licensed produced engines from a joint in venture between Germany's Deutz and China's HND. The first Grachonok fitted its new propulsion is scheduled to be delivered to the Russian Navy in November and the second vessel in a month after.

Russian Report : http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1240331.html

Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia
Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia

Sebelumnya Tahun kemarin, China (Henan Diesel Engine Corp, LTD) juga pernah memasok Marine Diesel Engine yang lebih kecil untuk Project 21980 Grachonok class of patrol boats nya Russia.

Mungkin mereka Puas dengan Performa nya, makanya untuk Korvet Buyan-M nya mereka memilih China (HND Engine Corp) lagi. emoticon-Big Grin

Ane pake gearbox made in china kw-an buatan eropa.. kasar banget suaranya..
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ga lagi lagi..
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Biasa,namanya jg cari murah. Russia lg perlu byk duit buat mengembalikan kemampuan navy nya... Sehemat mgkn klo pake duit
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Plus, lagi kena sanksi ekonomi dari EU, mau beli dari produsen d Eropa ga mungkin, ya China lah jadi alternatif.
Prosusen mesin rusia&negara satlitnya pada kemana ya?tinggal menunggu waktu saja kelak kl seperti ini russia bakal import pesawat tempur dan senjata teknologi tinggi dari cina.
Russia is going to to replace German MTU engine with TBD20V12 diesel engines built by HND's (Henen Diesel Engine Corp, LTD) for their Project 21980 Grachonok class of patrol boats because of sanctions.

Kena sanksi EU. Embargonya nampol banget buat AL Rusia. Dari kapal permukaan yg gede ampe kapal kecil jadi sibuk nyari pasokan mesin baru.
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Pabrik mesin kapalnya di Ukraina soalnya. Kalau industri pesawat Rusia masih berkecukupan bahkan unggul daripada Tiongkok. Cuma Antonov doang yg ilang.

Ane menduga nanti China sama Rusia bakal tukaran mesin kapal sama mesin pesawat kalau Rusia kepepet diembargo terus.
Diubah oleh HarsoMukmiin
baru nongol , nyengir sekali , kena banting dari dari om hans emoticon-siul
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Jiahaha..tp ambisinya mau nantang paman Sam lho pdhl yg dsna sdh teknologi abad Explorasi MARS kli boljug?!
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sumpah gw ngakak om.. haha.. Comment pertama nya begini haha..
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Kalo saran ane buat anda.
Sebaiknya, kalo beli Chinese Product, milih yang benar-benar Perusahaan nya udah punya nama di sono.

Kayak Pengadaan Alat Berat di tempat kerja ane, mereka milih Sa*y. Itu dari China, tapi Kualitas Engine, dan Equipment mereka bagus kok. Terutama Layanan After sales mereka.

Jadi balik lagi ke ente milih nya.
China itu negara Gede sama kayak Amrik. Mulai dari penjahat kelas Kakap hingga Malaikat berhati suci semua ada di sono.
Asal didukung juga oleh Kualitas Dompet ente emoticon-Big Grin Jangan dompet nya kelas Avan*a tapi maunya naek Mercy. yah keblenger.



Waktu itu pernah kan ada kasus,
Ada Importir China mau beli Buah Tropis (Salak) dari Indonesia, pas dikirim sample nya dari indonesia sih, bagus banget kualitas nya dan berhasil Lewat Standard Quality mereka.
Eh, pas Berton-ton Kontainer tuh Salak dateng ke Pelabuhan di China sono, Kualitas nya beda banget dengan sample nya kemarin. dan akhirnya kaga lolos Standard Quality di sono.

Akhirnya Rugi Kuadrat tuh orang, sampe dia mencak-mencak. Mending beli Buah Tropis ke Thailand atau Pinoy aja.
Lantas Apakah pantas kalo di-cap semua Buah tropis dari indonesia, kualitas nya buruk semua? Yah kaga bisa begitu toh emoticon-Big Grin



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Kalo Tukar guling gitu mesin kapal dengan mesin Pesawat, agak susah kayaknya.
Soalnya Stok mesin pesawat AL-31 sendiri, di Gudang China sono masih numpuk loh. dan harus dipake itu semua. biar kaga Mubazir.

Sedangkan Al-31 engine yang mereka beli untuk J-11A dan J-10A itu juga kaga saling "Interchangeable" loh.
Secara Letak Gearbox nya udah beda.

AL-31 F untuk J-11A.
Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia

Al-31 FN untuk J-10A
Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia

Paling selama, Engine WS-20 belum Ready, yang bisa diajak tukar guling yah DK-30 Engine.

Harusnya untuk negara sekelas Russia minimal punya 1 Marine Diesel Engine Production Line, entah itu di ST.Petersburg atau Severodinsk.
Apalagi belakangan ini, mereka juga lagi sibuk bangun Galangan Kapal yang cukup besar.

Diubah oleh people.news
^^
Tengkyu buat sarannya.
Tapi.. situ mau ngajarin saya buat kapal?
Mesin diesel kok disamain sama mesin jet
Bisa jualan mesin diesel kapal tidak menafikan pengembangan mesin jet Pesawatnya bermasalah

Ibarat nyamain apel sama kangkung
Pfffft.. Propajanda
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Diubah oleh mengkom
Lagi jalan-jalan, eh nemu ginian.
Ternyata Awal Tahun ini Russia juga pernah beli VPP (Variable-Pitch Propeller) dari China (Wuhan Marine Machinery Plant Co., LTD)


WMMP (Wuhan Marine Machinery Plant Co., LTD) delivered VPP (Variable-pitch propeller) to russian customer.
Chinese High Speed Marine Engine untuk Buyan M Corvette Russia

http://www.wmmp.com.cn/wmmpxwzx/cjxw/313587.htm

Nice Cooperation between Both Countries emoticon-Big Grin

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eeaa, mantaps agan2 emoticon-Big Grin

Ruski ama Murica dah main luar angkasa, robot2, cloning, IT, Cyber dari dulu sampe sekarang, si Bambu baru juga export mesin gituan udah dianggap bakal menyaingin 2 superpowa emoticon-Big Grin

lawan si J negeri kepulauan seberang aja belum tentu menang (non nuke ya), ini mau membandingin AL, AD, AU termodern dunia (Uncle Sam n Papa Tsar) dengan koko Panda emoticon-Big Grin

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hormat dulu sama sepuh yg bikin kapal hehehe
btw ditempat ane pernah pake marine diesel engine cina punya merek dong feng, dan itu haduuuuuh....
Diubah oleh sinergiXXI


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