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Rencana Pembelian Kapal Selam Oleh PLAN & Implikasinya
Quote:China’s Submarine Procurement & Its Implications

by cogitASIA Staff • October 21, 2013

By Chris Mclachlan

According to numerous recent media reports, Russia and China are in talks to finalize the largest arms deal between the two countries since 2002, with new submarines as the centerpiece of the arms package. The People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN)’s interest in purchasing the Lada-class submarines demonstrates that China does not intend to pursue expanded blue water naval capabilities without first ensuring strong capabilities within the first island chain. China’s continued procurement and development of diesel electric submarines is evidence that it desires to strengthen existing capabilities for a “Near Seas” anti-access/area-denial (A2/AD) environment. While analysts can form broad judgments about China’s naval capabilities by examining the types of platforms the PLAN is purchasing and/or developing, understanding China’s overall naval strategy and intentions is far more difficult given the opacity of the PLAN and the limited availability of reliable open-source information.

With over 60 conventional submarines (SSKs), China maintains one of the world’s largest submarine fleets. China’s continued investment in conventional submarines suggests that the PLAN will maintain its current force structure for some time. Compared to its fleet of SSKs, China’s fleet of nuclear powered attack submarines (SSNs) and nuclear ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) is very small — as of 2012, China operated 5 SSNs and 4 SSBNs. By comparison, the U.S. Navy currently operates 53 SSNs and 14 SSBNs. If China wishes to pursue more substantial blue water capabilities, it would likely have to alter its force structure to something more comparable to that of the U.S. Navy’s nuclear submarine fleet. Yet, the PLAN continues to invest heavily in SSKs. The purchase of the Lada-class would give China access to advanced noise dampening technology and new sonar systems such as advanced bow, flank arrays, and towed array sonars.

China’s potential acquisition of the Lada-class is a sign that China is working to further hone its A2/AD capabilities within the “Near Seas.” Unlike SSNs, which do not have to refuel for decades due to their nuclear reactors, SSKs are limited by how much fuel they can hold. The Lada-class has a range of about 6,000 miles submerged dieseling speed and about 650 miles submerged at a cruising speed of 3 kt. This range is more than adequate for operating within the first island chain where Chinese ports are within easy reach. SSKs are very capable, quiet, and agile weapons platforms when operating within the first island chain, as the shallow waters allow them to excel at mine laying, anti-surface warfare and ISR (intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance) missions. Yet the Lada-class and China’s SSK fleet generally are less ideal in blue water operations that take subs far away from resupply ports.

The limitations of China’s submarine fleet signal that, at least in the near future, the PLAN may have difficulty operating aircraft carriers beyond the “Near Seas.” Due to the SSK’s range limitations and China’s small number of SSNs, the PLAN has limited anti-submarine warfare (ASW) capabilities. In the event of a conflict, the handful of Chinese SSNs might not be able to deploy with aircraft carrier battle groups if they are needed for conducting anti-surface warfare operations against Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force and U.S. Navy surface ships operating in range of the first island chain. Without adequate ASW capabilities, the PLAN would be taking a substantial risk deploying its new carrier during wartime, particularly outside the first island chain. These constraints suggest the PLAN may restrict its carrier operations to within the first island chain, where it is less susceptible to submarine attacks because it is under the cover of land based airpower and within the umbrella of China’s ballistic missile forces.

China’s potential purchase of the Lada-class submarine does not signify that China intends to challenge U.S. global naval preeminence but rather desires to become a regional naval power within the first island chain. For the time being, China’s carrier and fast attack SSNs, appear to be tools to cultivate national pride rather than meaningful blue water naval capabilities. Still, China’s regional naval ambitions should serve as a rallying cry for U.S. allies in the Asia-Pacific to strengthen their respective military ties with the United States—and with each other—as the best means for deterring possible future Chinese aggression.



Source: http://cogitasia.com/chinas-submarin...-implications/

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PLAN jadi beli Lada class yah?
lada, SU 35 BM teknologi demonstrator rusky pasti di beli ma cina, n tunggu 10 tahun kemudian KW supernya muncul..

inget S 300 dibeli lalu muncul HQ 9 malah langsung hot di pasaran tu si hong q tong 9 emoticon-Big Grin
Quote:Original Posted By supermarine



Source: http://cogitasia.com/chinas-submarin...-implications/

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PLAN jadi beli Lada class yah?


kira kira ada hubungannya sama berita LADA yg lg sea trial ggak yah...??

su 35 bm kayaknya mereka udah pesen 25 biji....
Quote:Original Posted By kamerald


kira kira ada hubungannya sama berita LADA yg lg sea trial ggak yah...??



yah bisa jadi coz selama ini cina punya predikat first customer barang2 ruski....
Quote:Original Posted By Mrkarjo
su 35 bm kayaknya mereka udah pesen 25 biji....


motto: biar plagiat yg penting no ngeteng emoticon-Ngacir
gitu ada satu member disini yg ngotot kalo Tiongkok udah bikin KILO di era 88 dan nawaruin tukar guling ke negeri kita

Tiongkok itu belanjanya USD 10B per tahun lo ama Ruski , India USD 20B so mana yg akan diduluin yg super ribet dan belinya ngeteng atau yg belanja sekali jor2an dan rutin pulak
Quote:Original Posted By r3zam4n


yah bisa jadi coz selama ini cina punya predikat first customer barang2 ruski....


tp diberitanya nieh lada yg lg sea trial rencananya kan untuk dipakai ruskie sendiri.stelah didesain ulang.tp gak tau jg ding...kali aja yg rencana membuat 4-6 lada di 2015 kali aja ada nyempil lada pesenan china.....cmiiw

Quote:Original Posted By kamerald


tp diberitanya nieh lada yg lg sea trial rencananya kan untuk dipakai ruskie sendiri.stelah didesain ulang.tp gak tau jg ding...kali aja yg rencana membuat 4-6 lada di 2015 kali aja ada nyempil lada pesenan china.....cmiiw



pasti ada 1 nyempil barang cina emoticon-Big Grin
daripada kilo kayaknya mending ambil lada aja deh new brand
Quote:Original Posted By r3zam4n


pasti ada 1 nyempil barang cina emoticon-Big Grin
daripada kilo kayaknya mending ambil lada aja deh new brand


kelebihan lada dibanding kilo apa yah?

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