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[Thailand] Markas Hampir Jadi, Tinggal Kapal Selam Yang Belum
Quote:Submarine base nears completion

Royal Thai Navy now 'needs' a fleet

Published: 12 Oct 2013 at 22.42

The Royal Thai Navy plans to complete the construction of a submarine squadron headquarters and training centre in March next year, despite not having any submarines in its fleet.

Construction on the project began last year at Chon Buri's Sattahip Naval Base. The navy is eyeing the purchase of at least three submarines as part of its next 10-year procurement plan.

Submarine squadron chief Panu Punyavirocha said the new headquarters will cost 540 million baht. About 200 million baht of that is being spent on the Submarine Command Team Trainer, which will include a crew training stimulator.

Former navy chief Adm Kamthorn Pumhiran ordered the submarine squadron to be formed in April 2011 in anticipation of the government's green light to purchase four used German submarines worth 7 billion baht.

The plan's cost-effectiveness and transparency were questioned, however, and in the end the government failed to approve the procurement in time for the purchase deadline set by Germany.

"Submarines are of strategic importance to Thailand," Rear Adm Panu said Saturday.

He insisted submarines are unique compared to other armaments in terms of their strategic capabilities. If territorial disputes in the South China Sea escalate, sea transport in the Gulf of Thailand could be shut down with severe economic ramifications, Rear Adm Panu said.

"The navy must maintain its defensive capabilities to ensure the free movement of vessels in and out of the Gulf of Thailand under all circumstances. This is a matter of sovereignty and territorial integrity," the squadron chief said.

Submarines would also act as a deterrent to hostile parties seeking to encroach into Thailand's maritime territory, he said.

Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia and Vietnam have all commissioned submarine fleets and plan to procure more, Rear Adm Panu said, adding that there are now 19 submarines operating in neighbouring waters.

"Submarines are the invisible force of deterrence. They constitute a covert naval strength as they are nowhere to be seen but are present everywhere," he said.

Navy chief Narong Pipatanasai echoed the need for submarines.

"Although we don't have tens of billions of baht to spend on submarines, the navy must be prepared for when we will have them in the near future," the navy chief said, referring to the new training centre.

A Defence Ministry source said Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, who doubles as defence minister, had instructed Supreme Commander Thanasak Patimaprakorn to devise a 10-year development plan for the armed forces.

The plan will sound out what armaments each branch of the military needs or wants.

Submarines will be included in the navy's 10-year plan, the source said.

Submarines will be important for maritime security when the Dawei deep sea port opens in Myanmar, with shipping lanes around the western coast expected to be bustling, the source added.

Rear Adm Panu said the navy needs at least three submarines, ranging in size from 500- to 3,000-tonne displacement. He dismissed concerns the Gulf of Thailand may be too shallow for submarines to operate.

He said several submarines from other countries had conducted drills in the Gulf.

"Those foreign navies probably know more than we do about the underwater terrain in the Gulf of Thailand," he said.

The navy has sent 18 officers for a 32-week submarine training course in Germany, and another 10 for a similar eight-week course in South Korea.

The navy plans to send more officers to attend exercises and seminars abroad to boost their knowledge of submarines, Rear Adm Panu said.

The new submarine training school will produce personnel with the skills to operate a future submarine fleet, he added.



Source: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...ars-completion

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Bold merah: Indikasi U-209 atau CBG?
jangan jangan ngambil opsi yang u-206 lagi ?
katanya dari jerman udah dapat green light

u-209, u-212 atau u-214?
Quote:Original Posted By mr.yakhont
jangan jangan ngambil opsi yang u-206 lagi ?

Sepertinya ngga gan....ini caption dari foto di sumber berita:

Quote:The Thai government almost bought two of these used Type 206A diesel electric submarines from Germany in 2011, but cooler heads prevailed during the election year and the Navy passed on the deal.
berarti ada kemungkinan mereka mau pake U 209 malah
Quote:Original Posted By supermarine

Sepertinya ngga gan....ini caption dari foto di sumber berita:




206 blum di ambil thaild ya om?? ane kira dah dah punyaaa diaa...

ngak enak benr nama komandanya"" chief Panu Punyavirocha""
kyk nma penyakit kulitt
kira2 gimana kemungkinannya dengan 212,,?
bener2 Niat neh negara..... barang blm teken tp basenya disiapin dulu.
tp salut aja atas niatnya,da kirim perwira segala buat pelatihan KS....... yg ngenes yah pilipinemoticon-Nohope
ngincer U-206, dulu sempet ada beritanya
klw gak salah sempet hampir batal pembelian U-206 tapi dari AL mereka pada merengek jadinya gol juga rencananya
cuman bingungnya dia kirim kru ke German sama Korsel, emang korsel make U-206 juga?
yang ngenes ya kita mbah dari dulu kapal silem kok cuma 2 terus gak nambah-nambah emoticon-Sorry cocok ama semboyan KB 2 kapal silem cukup emoticon-Ngakak
Tinggal tunggu aja realisasinya kek gimana, apa akan ada kejutan lainnya dari Thailand emoticon-Malu (S)
Quote:Original Posted By newmomotaro
berarti ada kemungkinan mereka mau pake U 209 malah


Quote:Original Posted By kagengar
ngincer U-206, dulu sempet ada beritanya
klw gak salah sempet hampir batal pembelian U-206 tapi dari AL mereka pada merengek jadinya gol juga rencananya
cuman bingungnya dia kirim kru ke German sama Korsel, emang korsel make U-206 juga?


memang mereka berencana pake U-209-1200 baru koq dari korea
dan kemungkinan u-206 bekas jerman

Quote:
Thai Navy to Swap German Submarines for Korean
21 April 2011

The Royal Thai Navy is considering purchasing two South Korean submarines instead of six second-hand German submarines, Thai Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon has said.

The defence minister's proposal for two new Hyundai-built Type U-209 Class diesel-electric submarines could cost over THB40bn ($1.32bn) and will require a tied-over budget spanning years.

The navy has agreed to the proposal as long as the new South Korean submarines were based on German technology, a navy source said. "But if that costs more than 40bn-50bn baht, the government may not approve it and the Navy will end up without any submarines," the source added.

The Korean Type U-209 Class submarine has a displacement capacity of 1,200t and can accommodate a crew of 30, according to the Bangkok Post. The 7.7bn-baht ($255m) German submarines have a usable life of only six or seven years compared with the new submarines.

http://www.naval-technology.com/news...ews116947.html
Quote:Original Posted By pecotot

memang mereka berencana pake U-209-1200 baru koq dari korea
dan kemungkinan u-206 bekas jerman

bakal jadi sesama pengguna cangbego nichemoticon-Matabelo

Quote:Original Posted By supermarine



Quote:Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia and Vietnam have all commissioned submarine fleets and plan to procure more, Rear Adm Panu said, adding that there are now 19 submarines operating in neighbouring waters.


Viet = 6
Spore = 6
Malay= 2
Indo= 2 (...) CBG..?

Bold : there are now 19 submarines operating

Woww.. CBG indo kan blom dikirim pak panu.. emoticon-Matabelo


Quote:Original Posted By wahwibson

bakal jadi sesama pengguna cangbego nichemoticon-Matabelo



Teman buat latihan bareng.,,,,
Quote:Original Posted By wanglin


Viet = 6
Spore = 6
Malay= 2
Indo= 2 (...) CBG..?

Bold : there are now 19 submarines operating

Woww.. CBG indo kan blom dikirim pak panu.. emoticon-Matabelo




Collin Class gak diitung sekalian ?
Quote:Original Posted By madokafc


Collin Class gak diitung sekalian ?


tapi kan kalo ditambah collin jadi lebih dari 19..
lagian yng diomongin pak panu cuma Indo, Malay, Viet, sama Spore..
emoticon-Matabelo


jgn2 3 KS siluman punyanya si pinoy...
emoticon-Takut (S)



Quote:Original Posted By wanglin


Viet = 6
Spore = 6
Malay= 2
Indo= 2 (...) CBG..?

Bold : there are now 19 submarines operating

Woww.. CBG indo kan blom dikirim pak panu.. emoticon-Matabelo





deket situ ya taiwan... ada 4 submarine
Quote:Original Posted By wanglin


tapi kan kalo ditambah collin jadi lebih dari 19..
lagian yng diomongin pak panu cuma Indo, Malay, Viet, sama Spore..
emoticon-Matabelo


jgn2 3 KS siluman punyanya si pinoy...
emoticon-Takut (S)





Ya kalo lancar 2017 dari 19 ekor di asean ketambahan at least 3 lagi (ceh beh gheh for an archipelagic state)
hmm menarik. Thailand kira bakal ambil yg mana ya ?

a. Chang Bo Go, kalau berminat sama ini apa Jerman ga bakal marah2 lagi kecuali sudah minta ijin Jerman dan Jerman dpt ketumpahan royaltinya.
b. Type 209 Mutant seperti indonesia ( formil aja meragukan ) kalau mau beli ini kayaknya nunggu Indonesia test drive dulu, kalau berhasil bakal diambilkah?
c 209/206 (asli Jerman ) ya kalau ini sudah cap battle prupen, bisa dipercaya dan dipertanggung jawabkan. kyknya ini calon terkuat.

kenapa ga coba lirik yg lain ya Thailand:

ke turki (lisensi 209 dari Jerman ), Perancis ( Scorpene kaya punya si jaguh ), Russia (kilo kyk punya Vietnam).

jadi pengen tau nanti Thailand mau ambil yg mana.
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Sudah saatnya indo mulai merancang Kapal Hunter Submarine. soalnya ditahun2 yg akan datang bakal makin banyak siluman bawah laut yg maen tidak pada tempanya alias nyelonong tanpa permisi dan minta ditilang ditempat. emoticon-I Love Indonesia (S)emoticon-I Love Indonesia (S) Tabah Sampai Akhir emoticon-I Love Indonesia (S)emoticon-I Love Indonesia (S)
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