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Russia’s Defense Ministry has accused Israel of criminal negligence and misleading Moscow on downing of the Russian Ilyushin Il-20 military plane off Syria last week.

“We believe that the blame for the tragedy of the Russian Ilyushin-20 lies entirely with the Israeli air force and those who made the decision to carry out such actions," Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

“The Israeli military either allowed criminal negligence or lacked professionalism which resulted in the downing of the Il-20,” he said during a press briefing on Sunday in Moscow.

Konashenkov refuted claims by Israel that the Russian reconnaissance plane was struck after all Israeli jets were back in Israeli airspace, saying that F-16 jets maneuvered toward approaching Il-20 and used the aircraft "as a shield” against Syrian anti-aircraft missiles.

By doing so, “the Russian Il-20 couldn't move to a safe place,” Konashenkov was quoted by Sputnik News on Sunday.

According to the Russians, new details about the incident showed that Israeli jets left the area only 10 minutes after receiving information that the crew of the Il-20 had began an emergency descent after it was hit.

Konashenkov added that Israeli jets may have also posed a threat to passenger planes when the Il-20 was shot down.

He added that Israel’s Air Force has on multiple occasions “created potentially dangerous situations for the Russian forces located in Syria,” and that Moscow has used the deconfliction mechanism to warn of operations 310 times more often than the IDF which has notified Russia only 25 times since it was put in place.

The Russians accuse Israel of warning of the strike only a minute prior to the operation, contradicting claims by the IDF that the warning was given in Russian several minutes ahead of the strike on a Syrian military facility in the coastal city of Latakia.

The IDF’s delegation to Moscow headed by Israel Air Force Commander Maj.-Gen. Amikam Norkin returned to Israel early Friday morning after meeting with senior Russian officials following an agreement between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Israel presented all facts regarding the incident including intelligence gathered prior to the strike, the recording of the hotline call between Tel Aviv and Khmeimim prior to the Israeli operation, the significance of the attack and the findings of the IDF’s investigation.

According to a statement released by the IDF Spokeperson’s Unit on Sunday, the “comprehensive, accurate and factual details are known to the relevant professionals in the Russian military.”

The statement stressed Israel’s denial of using the Russian plane as cover and re-emphasized that all IAF jets were back in Israeli airspace when the plane was hit.

“The result of the downing of the Russian plane by Syrian fire is severe and tragic and we convey our condolences to the bereaved families and the Russian People,” the statement read.

According to Israel’s military the coordination mechanism between the IDF and the Russian military has proven its value numerous and that its “continuation is a shared interest in light of the various regional challenges.”

Responding to Russia’s claim that Israel has endangered the lives of personnel in Syria, the IDF stated that their safety is a focal component in the planning and approval of all operations.

“The safety and well-being of the Russian troops who operate in Syria are a focal component in every approval of any activity by senior officials in the IDF and in Israel. The IDF will continue to take all necessary measures, as it has been doing until this very day, to achieve this goal.”

Israel has placed the blame for the incident squarely on the Syrian regime which shot the Russian-made anti-aircraft battery during the Israeli airstrike last Monday night.

“There was no provocation against the Ilyushin,” said a senior IDF official on condition of anonymity, explaining that over 20 anti-aircraft missiles were fired by the Syrian regime in an irresponsible manner which put other planes at risk.

“We proved how the Syrian reckless anti-air fire was the direct cause of hitting the Russian aircraft," he said. "They fired quite recklessly and irresponsibly and unprofessionally into the air long after our planes were no longer there."
menhannya ngebet banget pengen nyalahin israel , padahal presidennya udah ngomong "uwis to , cuman kecelakaan". emoticon-Big Grin
IDF rejects Moscow claim of ‘criminal negligence,’ vows to keep targeting Iran
Military responds to Russian defense ministry’s accusation that it’s responsible for Syria downing spy plane, says those involved know the facts.
Syrian regime accidentally shoots down Russian military planeIn this file photo taken on Saturday, March 4, 2017, the Russian Il-20 electronic intelligence plane of the Russian air force with the registration number RF 93610, which was accidentally downed by Syrian forces responding to an Israeli air strike, flies near Kubinka airport, outside Moscow, Russia. (AP Photo/Marina Lystseva)



ISRAEL: FULL, ACCURATE, FACTUAL DETAILS ARE KNOWN TO RUSSIA
IDF rejects Moscow claim of ‘criminal negligence,’ vows to keep targeting Iran
Military responds to Russian defense ministry’s accusation that it’s responsible for Syria downing spy plane, says those involved know the facts
By JUDAH ARI GROSS
23 Sep 2018, 6:02 pm 25
In this file photo taken on Saturday, March 4, 2017, the Russian Il-20 electronic intelligence plane of the Russian air force with the registration number RF 93610, which was accidentally downed by Syrian forces responding to an Israeli air strike, flies near Kubinka airport, outside Moscow, Russia. (AP Photo/Marina Lystseva)
In this file photo taken on Saturday, March 4, 2017, the Russian Il-20 electronic intelligence plane of the Russian air force with the registration number RF 93610, which was accidentally downed by Syrian forces responding to an Israeli air strike, flies near Kubinka airport, outside Moscow, Russia. (AP Photo/Marina Lystseva)
The Israeli military on Sunday rejected the Russian defense ministry’s claim that it was entirely to blame for the downing of a Russian spy plane by Syrian air defenses during an Israeli strike last week, reiterating that Syria was at fault.

In a statement, the Israel Defense Forces maintained its version of events — that the Russian reconnaissance plane was shot down as a result of indiscriminate Syrian anti-aircraft fire — and said it would continue to act to prevent terrorist groups from obtaining advanced weapons.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-rejects-moscow-claim-of-criminal-negligence-vows-to-keep-targeting-iran/

* kalau nga salah, jubir menhan ini juga yg pernah dapat 'warning' dari Pentagon akan kebiasaannya yg suka bikin berita hoax & propaganda...2x malah waktu Tomahawk seliweran di Suriah emoticon-Big Grin

What a dick! emoticon-Betty
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Duh rusia masih aja nyari kambing hitam
Wuih jadih tambah puanas. Kalo wilayah udara syria ditutup buat israel, berarti msin mainnya bakal pindah lebanon ini trus lompat ke situh
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Balasan post RADOLAN28
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Dari Lebanon udah sering main ini salah satunya kemarin emoticon-Embarrassment
Syrian regime accidentally shoots down Russian military plane

Sampai musuh Israel ngomong:
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Superioritas adalah salah satu bahan bargaining perdamaian di kawasan
‘Major mistake’: Israel, US warn Russia against giving S-300 missiles to Syria
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-warns-russia-deploying-s-300-in-syria-would-be-major-mistake/
Balasan post Mistaravim
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ngebacanya saja bingung. basically dia bilang IDF harusnya tau soal rute flight plane pesawat russia dan juga harus memperhitungkan timing pesawat russia belok, ke arah mana, dsb-nya.

that's just vodka fueled BS.
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Udah pernah baca omongkosong dia terkait serangan Tomahawk kemarin? Terlalu banyak mimpi tuh orang. Dan secanggih apapun sistaarhanud Suriah, mereka tak lebih dari orang idiot yg memegang senjata.

Sistaarhanud tercanggih yg mereka miliki adalah BUK, PANTSIR dll.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Air_Defense_Force
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Ada postingan AAMC (themess) yang menarik:

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yang pertama ngomong sukses tangkis 90% serangan dan bilang 40 rudal di intercept, lalu belakangan ralat jadi 100 karena US rilis 100 tomahawk lebih? emoticon-Leh Uga


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akur dengan analisis tersebut. nambah deterjen gak banyak, tapi risiko kena sikat dan bikin malu malah banyak. memangnya russia gak sadar berapa banyak yang mau jajal counter itu sistem anti udara dalam kondisi live? emoticon-Ngakak
Balasan post Mistaravim
Ipan itu nga sadar(pura-pura nga sadar) yang namanya Suriah itu jadi ajang perang EW terbesar di Timteng. Lha wong negara2 NATO sering ngirimin alutsista yang berhubungan dengan EW kesana.

Dan sudah jadi rahasia umum bagaimana sistaarhanud buatan sejak jaman Sovyet hingga Rusia sering dipermalukan oleh IAF.

Mulai kejadian Lembah Bekaa sampai pengeboman reaktor nuklir Deir ez-Zor Operation Outside the Box (Hebrew: מבצע מחוץ לקופסה‎, Mivtza Michutz La'Kufsa)

Sampai Iran & Suriah mencak2, kenapa IAF yang notabene pada waktu itu tidak memiliki pespur stealth.

Intergalactic Armed Forces bakal mempermalukan bang Ipan lagi untuk kesekian kalinya (setelah pespur mereka ditembak jatuh dgn SideWinder + pesawat EW mereka ditembak jatuh sekutu)
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Giving Syria S-300 Surface To Air Missile Systems Won't Halt Israeli Strikes

If the missiles actually arrive and stay, they would represent a clear escalation, but Israel won't stop its strikes because of them.
BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK
SEPTEMBER 24, 2018
Syrian regime accidentally shoots down Russian military plane
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23792/giving-syria-s-300-surface-to-air-missile-systems-wont-halt-israeli-strikes

The "request" is for your own country good. emoticon-Embarrassment
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Biarin dateng, biar ilang fetish kita ama S300 emoticon-Stick Out Tongue

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Russian MoD: S-400 data shows Israeli F-16 hid behind Russian Il-20 to avoid Syrian missile (VIDEO)

Published time: 24 Sep, 2018 17:11
Edited time: 25 Sep, 2018 09:16

Russian Defense Ministry's spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov speaks at the September 24 news briefing on the downing of the Russian Il-20 in Syria © Ministry of Defense

Data captured by Russia’s S-400 system proves Israeli jets were responsible for the downing of the Russian plane, the Defense Ministry said, adding that the Syrian missile changed its course shortly before hitting the Il-20.

Data gleaned from the S-400 air defense system deployed at the Russian Khmeimim air base in Syria’s Latakia province has revealed that the Syrian anti-air missile was, in fact, targeting an Israeli F-16 jet before it abruptly altered its course and eventually hit the Russian aircraft. This, and the position of all the aircraft at the moment of the September 17 incident, proves that an Israeli jet was de facto using the larger Il-20 as a cover, the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov told journalists at Monday's news briefing.

Syrian regime accidentally shoots down Russian military plane

Radar data of the Russian S-400 air defense system showing position of 4 Israeli F-16 jets (yellow), the Syrian air defense missile (red), and the Russian Il-20 plane (green) at the time of its downing on September 17, 2018 © Ministry of Defense

The radar images revealed at the briefing “clearly showed the direction of the flight of the S-200 missile launched by the Syrian air defense system, as well as the locations of the Russian and Israeli aircraft,” Konashenkov said, adding that “it is quite clear that the missile was targeting the Israeli jet.”

READ MORE: ‘We didn’t hide behind any aircraft’: Israel insists its jets not to blame for downing Russian Il-20

However, the missile then suddenly changed its course and “locked on a target with a larger radar cross-section and slower speed,” which was the Russian reconnaissance plane coming in for landing. The Israeli jet, which effectively used the Il-20 as a cover from the attack, then also abruptly changed its altitude and the flight direction, Konashenkov said.

#BREAKING:
Russian MOD: New Data shows Syrian anti-air missile was, in fact, targeting an Israeli F-16 jet before it abruptly altered its course and eventually hit the Russian aircraft: "An Israeli jet was de facto using the larger Il-20 as a cover" pic.twitter.com/RmKwzgJEf4

*) https://www.rt.com/news/439246-russian-mod-israeli-f-16-hid/
Balasan post RADOLAN28
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Suriah ga pernah mendeclare zona larangan terbang di wilayah udaranya. Meskipun ada konflik dan sam bertebaran


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Emang punya duit gitu buat beli? emoticon-Embarrassment
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kok beda jauh ya dengan ukraina, walaupun sebatas harus terbang di ketinggian sekian dsb,,resiko tidak ada declared zone itu berarti pespur asing yg punya kepentingan disana bisa lewat ya?
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Suriah itu nga punya kemampuan buat menjaga ruang udaranya....menurutmu kenapa pespur Rusia bisa kena Sidewinder Turki?

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