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Church Of England Drops Opposition To Gay Marriage Bill

(RNS) Bishops in the Church of England, who had strenuously opposed a bid to allow same-sex marriage, signaled that they won’t try to derail the bill after an overwhelming vote of support in the House of Lords.

Church of England spokesman Steve Jenkins said that in the same way the church will eventually allow women bishops, England will eventually allow same-sex marriage.

“It doesn’t mean the Church of England is happy, but that’s where our government is going,” Jenkins said. “Now it’s about safeguarding people’s right to hold religious beliefs.”

The Right Rev. Tim Stevens, the Bishop of Leicester who leads the bishops in the House of Lords, issued a statement on Wednesday (June 5), one day after the parliament’s upper house voted 390-148 against an amendment to kill the gay marriage bill.

“Both houses of Parliament have now expressed a clear view by large majorities on the principle that there should be legislation to enable same-sex marriages to take place in England and Wales,” Stevens said.

The bill will now go into committee where bishops — who hold 26 seats in the upper chamber — will attempt to insert amendments to add protections for teachers or other workers who object on religious grounds. The bill passed the House of Commons on a vote of 366 to 161.Other observers cautioned against reading too much into the Church of England’s move, saying it is just part of the political process.

“I think it’s been over reported that the church has given in,” said Chris Sugden, an Anglican minister and secretary of the traditionalist group Anglican Mainstream. “It’s as if the church is saying, ‘We don’t approve of gambling, but if there are going to be betting shops, they would put an amendment to say they should not be near schools.’”

The statement by Stevens still notes the redefinition of marriage. “If this bill is to become law, it is crucial that marriage as newly defined is equipped to carry within it as many as possible of the virtues of the understanding of marriage it will replace,” Stevens said.

The bishop’s statement is subtle enough that the bishops could end up voting against the bill once it comes out of committee, says the Rev. Peter Ould, a commentator and Anglican priest.

“I wouldn’t put it past the bishops to say we didn’t get what we wanted so we are going to vote no,” Ould said. “The underlying tone of the statement is that this bill isn’t good. It needs to be improved.”



The bishop’s move comes a few days after the head of the Church of England, Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, said the redefinition of marriage would undermine a cornerstone of society.

The current legislation bans the established Churches of England from conducting gay marriage ceremonies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3398796.html

kristen turut serta mengembangkan budaya homosex.
kristen dan homosex sama menjijikkannya

protestan (AS dan Inggris) akhirnya membolehkan homosex
di sisi lain, Katolik-Vatikan menentang keras homosex tapi dalam kenyataan justru juara mempraktekkan homosexual.
Tinggal menunggu ortodox timur tengah nih.
lah pastornya aja maho...maho ya mendukung per maho an...patikan tetep nolak..khan pencitraan...
rumah-rumah setan pendukung persilitan
Ck.ck.ck..
Demi sesuap nasi?


yang penting bukan gereja ane
Berarti alkitab bener
akan banyak nabi palsu
agan membuat ane menjadi makin percaya Alkitab bahwa Yesus yang menciptakan alam semesta yang maha kuasa dan terbukti dari nubat alkitab yang terjadi
banyak orang ngaku Kristen padahal bukan
itulah sebabnya, kebanyakan skrg yg menjadi pemuka / pemimpin agama itu adalah "pelarian" dari masalah hidup.
kebanyakan mereka adalah orang yg tidak berani bersaing di dunia kerja, jadinya maen aman jadi pemuka agama.

udah jadi pemuka agama, kagak tahan napsu, nah gitu dah.
wah,ni agama damai, asli dan paling semprulna kenapa ikut-ikut itu tapir pendukung homoseksual ya?

OooAkuBersaksi...
Itu kan di Inggris, brarti UU yg ada di inggris juga di atur juga sama gereja-gereja yang ada di sana. Berarti beda lagi sama negara lain, tergantung UU nya juga melarang atau memperbolehkan
Quote:Original Posted By darkdragon14
Itu kan di Inggris, brarti UU yg ada di inggris juga di atur juga sama gereja-gereja yang ada di sana. Berarti beda lagi sama negara lain, tergantung UU nya juga melarang atau memperbolehkan


Kalau disini beda gan, undang-undang itu horom hukumnya kalau bukan berasal dari kitab gua hira.makanya dimana-mana kelakuannya kalau gak makar, minta daerah eksklusif sendiri.gak di thailand, myanmar, philipin,ah..isi sendiri deh gan...
Quote:Original Posted By sarotherodon
yang penting bukan gereja ane
Berarti alkitab bener
akan banyak nabi palsu
agan membuat ane menjadi makin percaya Alkitab bahwa Yesus yang menciptakan alam semesta yang maha kuasa dan terbukti dari nubat alkitab yang terjadi
banyak orang ngaku Kristen padahal bukan


Klo emang om jus yang ciptain, kenapa pohon ara yang gak tau logika ,bukannya di buat berbuah malah di kutuk ??


Nubuat dari Tuhan yang Esa di sampaikan ke rasulnya, yesus, melalui malaikat/roh kudus


,,tiada keslamatan di luar gereja ,,

Patutnya buat para homok. Karena di lindungi
Quote:Original Posted By lonelybutts


Kalau disini beda gan, undang-undang itu horom hukumnya kalau bukan berasal dari kitab gua hira.makanya dimana-mana kelakuannya kalau gak makar, minta daerah eksklusif sendiri.gak di thailand, myanmar, philipin,ah..isi sendiri deh gan...


maho detected
Quote:Original Posted By silitneonmodol
rumah-rumah setan pendukung persilitan




Quote:Original Posted By sarotherodon
yang penting bukan gereja ane
Berarti alkitab bener
akan banyak nabi palsu
agan membuat ane menjadi makin percaya Alkitab bahwa Yesus yang menciptakan alam semesta yang maha kuasa dan terbukti dari nubat alkitab yang terjadi
banyak orang ngaku Kristen padahal bukan


gan jaman gini kok masih percaya dgn agama mendingan TRUST YOUR SELF
loh... kenapa harus dilarang ??
bukannya memang diajarkan begitu ?
Quote:Original Posted By yudas1
Church Of England Drops Opposition To Gay Marriage Bill

(RNS) Bishops in the Church of England, who had strenuously opposed a bid to allow same-sex marriage, signaled that they won’t try to derail the bill after an overwhelming vote of support in the House of Lords.

Church of England spokesman Steve Jenkins said that in the same way the church will eventually allow women bishops, England will eventually allow same-sex marriage.

“It doesn’t mean the Church of England is happy, but that’s where our government is going,” Jenkins said. “Now it’s about safeguarding people’s right to hold religious beliefs.”

The Right Rev. Tim Stevens, the Bishop of Leicester who leads the bishops in the House of Lords, issued a statement on Wednesday (June 5), one day after the parliament’s upper house voted 390-148 against an amendment to kill the gay marriage bill.

“Both houses of Parliament have now expressed a clear view by large majorities on the principle that there should be legislation to enable same-sex marriages to take place in England and Wales,” Stevens said.

The bill will now go into committee where bishops — who hold 26 seats in the upper chamber — will attempt to insert amendments to add protections for teachers or other workers who object on religious grounds. The bill passed the House of Commons on a vote of 366 to 161.Other observers cautioned against reading too much into the Church of England’s move, saying it is just part of the political process.

“I think it’s been over reported that the church has given in,” said Chris Sugden, an Anglican minister and secretary of the traditionalist group Anglican Mainstream. “It’s as if the church is saying, ‘We don’t approve of gambling, but if there are going to be betting shops, they would put an amendment to say they should not be near schools.’”

The statement by Stevens still notes the redefinition of marriage. “If this bill is to become law, it is crucial that marriage as newly defined is equipped to carry within it as many as possible of the virtues of the understanding of marriage it will replace,” Stevens said.

The bishop’s statement is subtle enough that the bishops could end up voting against the bill once it comes out of committee, says the Rev. Peter Ould, a commentator and Anglican priest.

“I wouldn’t put it past the bishops to say we didn’t get what we wanted so we are going to vote no,” Ould said. “The underlying tone of the statement is that this bill isn’t good. It needs to be improved.”



The bishop’s move comes a few days after the head of the Church of England, Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, said the redefinition of marriage would undermine a cornerstone of society.

The current legislation bans the established Churches of England from conducting gay marriage ceremonies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3398796.html

kristen turut serta mengembangkan budaya homosex.
kristen dan homosex sama menjijikkannya

protestan (AS dan Inggris) akhirnya membolehkan homosex
di sisi lain, Katolik-Vatikan menentang keras homosex tapi dalam kenyataan justru juara mempraktekkan homosexual.
Tinggal menunggu ortodox timur tengah nih.

GEREJA YG TAAT
Quote:Original Posted By gondrongdekil
loh... kenapa harus dilarang ??
bukannya memang diajarkan begitu ?


Krist*n yg TAAT dan menjalankan Agamanya secara benar ya yg seperti itu gan
Quote:Original Posted By darkdragon14
Itu kan di Inggris, brarti UU yg ada di inggris juga di atur juga sama gereja-gereja yang ada di sana. Berarti beda lagi sama negara lain, tergantung UU nya juga melarang atau memperbolehkan


Bener kata si gourmet kalo inggris semakin Taat pada ajaran Palang
Quote:Original Posted By akuma777
lah pastornya aja maho...maho ya mendukung per maho an...patikan tetep nolak..khan pencitraan...


Bukan pasturnya homo gan

Si Pastur pada dasarnya normal, tapi karna terispirasi dari manual booknya, jadi mengaggap homo itu sebagai kewajiban dan perintah Tuhan

Jadi penyebab makin berkembangnya homo dan lesbi di dunia ini ya karna buku itu
Quote:Original Posted By tukangsodokbabi

GEREJA YG TAAT


Omongan nggak berdasar.
Masjid khusus gay dan ustad yg menikahkan gay itu, berarti mereka juga taat ya?
Pantes goblok lo...., babi aja disodok.
Quote:Original Posted By simplyguest


Omongan nggak berdasar.
Masjid khusus gay dan ustad yg menikahkan gay itu, berarti mereka juga taat ya?
Pantes goblok lo...., babi aja disodok.


Si Pastur hanya menjalankan apa yg tertera di manual book gan

Karna Si pastur itu emang penganut ajaran kancut yg baik

Lagian kalo ada mesjid khusus gay kan itu yg salah penganutnya, bukan agamanya

Lagian Sejak kapan di qura* ada cerita2 gay yg bisa menjadi inspirasi bagi penganut isl*m


Kalo di kris*en ini emang ajarannya yg menekankan untuk menjadi homo dan doyan tusbol
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